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		<title>Frets on Fire in the unlikeliest places</title>
		<link>http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/2009/10/frets-on-fire-in-the-unlikeliest-places/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;ve seen some pretty interesting hacks and modifications built on top of Frets on Fire, but I think the following video for Kasabian&#8217;s latest album deserves a special mention.

Great job guys! I wouldn&#8217;t have believed the game could be played like this. Don&#8217;t miss the making of.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve seen some <a href="http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-a-custom-game-controller/">pretty</a> <a href="http://www.eelke.com/blindhero.html">interesting</a> <a href="http://fretsonfire.wikidot.com/list-of-mods">hacks</a> and <a href="http://code.google.com/p/fofix/">modifications</a> built on top of Frets on Fire, but I think the following video for <a href="http://kasabian.co.uk">Kasabian&#8217;s</a> latest album deserves a special mention.</p>
<p><object width="560" height="340"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/0XjwoVqM_qE&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1&#038;color1=0x2b405b&#038;color2=0x6b8ab6"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/0XjwoVqM_qE&#038;hl=en&#038;fs=1&#038;color1=0x2b405b&#038;color2=0x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="560" height="340"></embed></object></p>
<p>Great job guys! I wouldn&#8217;t have believed the game could be played like this. Don&#8217;t miss the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmjijvX50FQ">making of</a>.</p>
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		<title>Interview in Espírito Livre magazine</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyostil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new issue of <a href="http://www.revista.espiritolivre.org/">Espírito Livre</a> just went live with the focus on free software gaming. I was interviewed for the magazine on the subject of Frets on Fire by João Fernando Costa Júnior. With permission and for the benefit of those who do not speak Brazilian Portuguese I've posted the English translation of the interview below.

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<p>The new issue of <a href="http://www.revista.espiritolivre.org/">Espírito Livre</a> just went live with the focus on free software gaming. I was interviewed for the magazine on the subject of Frets on Fire by João Fernando Costa Júnior. With permission and for the benefit of those who do not speak Brazilian Portuguese I&#8217;ve posted the English translation of the interview below.</p>
<p><b>Who is Sami Kyöstilä. Make a presentation to the readers of the magazine.</b></p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m a 26 year old guy from Finland who&#8217;s into game development, open<br />
source software, graphics programming and a fan of digital art in<br />
general.
</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Tell us about the Frets on Fire? Why the reason this name? Based on a music song?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Frets on Fire was originally created as our team&#8217;s entry to the<br />
Assembly 2006 game development competition. Assembly is one of the<br />
largest demoscene events in the world and its held bi-annually in<br />
Helsinki, Finland. It brings thousands of enthusiasts together to<br />
discuss, play games, and compete in various categories such as the<br />
demo competition. In 2006 our team, Unreal Voodoo, decided that it<br />
would be cool to make an entry for the game development competition,<br />
and in about two months that idea became Frets on Fire.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The name of the game was derived from a musical term that describes a<br />
very skilled guitar player.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>How the Frets on Fire is innovative? It&#8217;s a Guitar Hero clone?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>I think the game is innovative in they way it emphasizes the community<br />
and the social aspect of playing. Right from the start we wanted to<br />
make it easy for people to create their additional content such as new<br />
songs for the game, as well as compete against each other in online<br />
tournaments. Based on the number of people playing the game and the<br />
communities that have formed, I think that approach has paid off.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>What are the main difficulties in develop a opensource game and free distribution?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>The main difficulty in creating an open source game is bringing<br />
together a talented team of individuals who are motivated about<br />
working on the project. It is also a good to have a clear idea of what<br />
the completed game should look like so that everyone can work toward<br />
that common goal.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>Personally my greatest challenge is finding enough time to work on<br />
games, since I&#8217;m doing game development mostly as a hobby.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>How the project is sustainable? There is financial donations to the project?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>We do not actively collect donations from players, but we do<br />
appreciate it when people decide to give something to help us. Frets<br />
on Fire is something we do for fun, but of course donations help, for<br />
example for adding support for new guitar controllers to the game.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>What is the minimum hardware to run Frets on Fire?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>The game does not require a very powerful computer, but it helps to<br />
have a good graphics card. Most of the problems that people have had<br />
in playing the game have been because they have had old drivers for<br />
their graphics card. Another important requirement is to have a good<br />
keyboard (I recommend wireless) or a guitar controller.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>There is plans to launch versions for other operating systems or mobile?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Currently we support Linux, Windows and Mac OS X, but since most of<br />
the game code is platform-independent, it is pretty easy to port to<br />
new operating systems too. I think we&#8217;ll eventually see a mobile<br />
version too, perhaps on Nokia&#8217;s Maemo tablets.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Frets on Fire can become a &#8220;Guitar Hero&#8221; opensource? This is the plan?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>While Guitar Hero has been a source of inspiration for us, we&#8217;re not<br />
out to make an exact replica of it. Instead, we want to focus on our<br />
own unique approach to rhythm gaming.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>What are the main differences between the Frets on Fire and other music games?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>I guess one difference is that Frets on Fire can be played without any<br />
special hardware like guitar controllers just by using your keyboard<br />
&#8211; and you look really cool doing so <img src='http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p><b>In the latest Frets on Fire version, what&#8217;s new? What&#8217;s features?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>The latest release has mostly focused on bug fixes and performance<br />
optimizations so that people with older computers can also play the<br />
game. Because Unreal Voodoo is now working on our next game project,<br />
Frets on Fire is now mostly in maintenance mode from our point of<br />
view, which means that we are not actively working on new features for<br />
the game at the moment. But don&#8217;t worry &#8212; there is a very vibrant<br />
development branch called <a href="http://code.google.com/p/fofix">FoFiX</a><br />
which adds tons of new features and improvements at an incredible<br />
rate.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>The Frets on Fire is an example of a great game that is distributed free. How is that? How de project survives?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>The most important factor here is the very strong online community<br />
that has kept the project going for all this time. We owe a lot to the<br />
dedicated individuals who have set up forums, created new songs,<br />
supported new players and helped the project in numerous other ways.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>What motivated you to create Frets on Fire?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>It all started from an idea for using the keyboard as a substitute for<br />
the guitar controller. We just had to see how well that would work in<br />
an actual game. It also helped that the game development competition<br />
had a strict deadline to keep us motivated <img src='http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p><b>Do you have some problem with music copyrights or about game interface?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>We did not have any problems with music copyrights since we created<br />
all the music for the game ourselves.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Is there a feature you wanted to put in the game but was unable, for lack of cooperation or some other reason?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>There are lots of features we would have wanted but simply did not<br />
have enough time to implement. Since the initial development team was<br />
so small, we had to focus on the essential aspects of the game.<br />
Fortunately people from the community have stepped in to implement<br />
things like multiplayer modes and support for drums for instance.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>How to create a popular game so good and so small?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>The most important thing is to focus on gameplay; I think that as long<br />
as the game is fun to play, almost everything else is secondary.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>The opensource games has future? What do you think about this?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>I think open source games are a good way for game developers to share<br />
ideas and build on the work of others. In my opinion open sourcing<br />
Frets on Fire was a good choice, because it has enabled others to add<br />
important new features to the game that we could have never done just<br />
by ourselves. One good example is a university project in which they<br />
modified Frets on Fire so that it could be played by blind people with<br />
a custom controller. I think doing something like that is a lot more<br />
difficult &#8212; if not impossible &#8212; with closed source games.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>What is the secret of creating a popular game?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Community-building features such as online tournaments and the ability<br />
to create new songs and themes have really helped in the case of Frets<br />
on Fire.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Who wants to contribute to the project or have further information, what to do?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>We do appreciate all help, and anyone interested in working the<br />
project should contact me <a href="mailto:sami.kyostila@unrealvoodoo.org">sami.kyostila@unrealvoodoo.org</a>.</p></blockquote>
<p>> Do you have other opensource projects?</p>
<blockquote><p>A have a few other projects I work on occasionally, such as <a href="http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/projects/albumart">Album<br />
Cover Art Downloader</a> for getting album graphics from the internet.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>What is your opinion about the proprietary music games (like Guitar Hero) with closed code?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>I think they are a necessary evil because of the terms the console<br />
makers force upon game developers. I think Microsoft&#8217;s XNA for the<br />
XBox 360 is a step in the right direction, because it makes consoles a<br />
lot more accessible for game developers and also encourages open<br />
source games. However, I don&#8217;t think there is anything wrong with<br />
selling a game for money, and in most cases it is the only way of<br />
keeping the project going. I believe it is important for players to<br />
support the work of small independent game developers, because they<br />
often have the creative freedom for making something truly new.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Who are the other people (the team) behind the game?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Frets on Fire was created by myself (code), Tommi Inkilä (music) and<br />
Joonas Kerttula (graphics). Also, we must not forget Mikko Korkiakoski<br />
starring as the voice of Jürgen.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>What do you think about the community that was created around the Frets on Fire game?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>We were taken by complete surprise by the sheer magnitude of the<br />
different communities that formed around the game almost immediately<br />
after the first release. We still receive mail from around the world<br />
from enthusiastic players, and it&#8217;s unreal to think that we have<br />
created something enjoyed by so many people.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>What Frets on Fire fans can expect the in future versions?</b></p>
<blockquote><p>All fans should have a close look at FoFiX as a hint of things to come.</p></blockquote>
<p><b> Encourages you to fans of the game to make packages with songs to the game? Remember that most of the music packs found in internet are composed of ogg files that may have been copied from a CD.</b></p>
<blockquote><p>We think distributing ripped songs without a license not a good idea,<br />
but there is no getting around the fact that people are still doing<br />
it. Instead, we suggest players should just distribute just the note<br />
files, or stick to free songs that can be found from forums such as<br />
<a href="http://fretsonfire.net">fretsonfire.net</a> and <a href="http://keyboardsonfire.net">keyboardsonfire.net</a>. Also, many bands have<br />
discovered that bundling a copy of Frets on Fire with their own songs<br />
on an album is a good way to increase interest.</p></blockquote>
<p><b>Thank you for the opportunity! Leave a message for the readers of the magazine.</b></p>
<blockquote><p>Thank you for the very interesting questions, and remember to keep on rocking <img src='http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
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		<title>Frets on Fire &#8211; SourceForge&#8217;s Project of the Month</title>
		<link>http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/2009/03/frets-on-fire-sourceforges-project-of-the-month/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyostil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[We&#8217;re honored to announce that Frets on Fire was chosen as SourceForge&#8217;s Project of the Month for March 2009. You can read our interview over on SourceForge.net.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re honored to announce that <a href="http://fretsonfire.sf.net">Frets on Fire</a> was chosen as <a href="http://sourceforge.net/potm/">SourceForge&#8217;s Project of the Month</a> for March 2009. You can read <a href="http://sourceforge.net/community/potm-200903/">our interview</a> over on SourceForge.net.</p>
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		<title>Frets on Fire 1.3.110 released</title>
		<link>http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/2008/11/frets-on-fire-13110-released/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyostil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A new version of Frets on Fire is now out. This time around it is only a minor bugfix release with some assorted performance improvements, mainly intended to verify that the reworked build system does its thing properly. Perhaps the most notable feature in this release is the fact that the Mac build is now [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new version of <a href="http://fretsonfire.sourceforge.net/">Frets on Fire</a> is now out. This time around it is only a minor bugfix release with some assorted performance improvements, mainly intended to verify that the reworked build system does its thing properly. Perhaps the most notable feature in this release is the fact that the Mac build is now on par with other other platforms.</p>
<ul>
<li>Wrote concise instructions for building and installing the game.</li>
<li>Removed runtime SVG support. All images must be pre-rasterized as PNG graphics now. This also removes the dependency on Amanith, making the game simpler to build and package.</li>
<li>Reworked the build system. Now an installation package can be created with a single command for Windows and Mac OS X.</li>
<li>Added textured fretboard strings and bars.</li>
<li>Updated the translations.</li>
</ul>
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		<title>Frets on Fire 1.2.512 released</title>
		<link>http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/2007/10/frets-on-fire-12512-released/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyostil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fresh version of Frets on Fire is out. This time around we focused on general bugfixes, performance improvements and making the game run more smoothly, especially on older computers. Only a few new features were introduced, most notably the support for importing songs from Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s.
If you used the Windows [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fresh version of <a href="http://fretsonfire.sf.net">Frets on Fire</a> is out. This time around we focused on general bugfixes, performance improvements and making the game run more smoothly, especially on older computers. Only a few new features were introduced, most notably the support for importing songs from <a href="http://www.guitarherogame.com/gh80s/">Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s</a>.</p>
<p>If you used the Windows installer package of the previous version, please uninstall it before using this latest release.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a more complete <a href="http://fretsonfire.sourceforge.net/documentation/changelog/">changelog</a>:</p>
<ul>
<li>Graphics performance improvements</li>
<li>Effects optimization</li>
<li>Font rendering optimization</li>
<li>Miscellaneous bug fixes</li>
<li>Added import support for Guitar Hero 80s</li>
<li>Translation updates</li>
<li>World Charts standing is now reported after each game</li>
</ul>
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		<title>What&#8217;s happening with Frets On Fire?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyostil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As you might have noticed, it&#8217;s been awhile since we&#8217;ve put out a new version of Frets On Fire and generally things have been a little dormant around the project. I hope to somewhat clarify the situation with this post.
Well, first off, rumors about the death of the project have been greatly exaggerated. We have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you might have noticed, it&#8217;s been awhile since we&#8217;ve put out a new version of Frets On Fire and generally things have been a little dormant around the project. I hope to somewhat clarify the situation with this post.</p>
<p>Well, first off, rumors about the death of the project have been greatly exaggerated. We have a new version in the works and at this point it is nearly finished. This time around the focus has been on performance optimization and general bug fixes, so no major new features are being introduced. Hopefully we&#8217;ll have the new packages up later this week.</p>
<p>That said, in the long run our intention is to gradually move Frets into a maintenance mode and concentrate more on our next game project. It&#8217;s been a blast working on Frets On Fire, but at the same time all these other awesome game ideas have been fighting for attention in our respective heads. This does not mean that we are abandoning Frets completely; the only implication is that major new features will probably not be implemented by us in the near future.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll try to write something more about the new game as it materializes. In the mean time, you might want to check out this <a href="http://generalgames.ca/?p=139">General Games Podcast</a>, where I&#8217;m interviewed by Justin Amirkhani about all things Frets On Fire.</p>
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		<title>Old scores are now purged from the Frets On Fire Charts</title>
		<link>http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/2007/09/old-scores-are-now-purged-from-the-frets-on-fire-charts/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyostil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lately our web host has been somewhat concerned about the database load generated by the Frets On Fire World Charts web application. While the app does employ a number of caching schemes, it executes some pretty large queries in the process, which are reportedly hindering other users of the system. Given the choice of shutting [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lately our web host has been somewhat concerned about the database load generated by the Frets On Fire <a href="http://fretsonfire.sourceforge.net/charts">World Charts</a> web application. While the app does employ a number of caching schemes, it executes some pretty large queries in the process, which are reportedly hindering other users of the system. Given the choice of shutting down the service or mitigating the load, we opted for the latter by adding a process that removes old scores from the database.</p>
<p>The charts now list the best 50 scores for each song and expire all others that are at least three weeks old. The expired scores will disappear from all views, including the personal player pages. This is a pretty aggressive scheme, but it is needed to keep the amount of data bounded. Note that instead of deleting the scores, we are simply moving them to an offline table.</p>
<p>Next we&#8217;ll monitor how well this scheme performs in practice and tune it accordingly. Please post your questions and suggestions in the comments below.</p>
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		<title>Frets On Fire Charts back up again</title>
		<link>http://unrealvoodoo.org/hiteck/blog/2007/07/frets-on-fire-charts-back-up-again/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyostil</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Frets On Fire World Charts were down for some time due to a configuration error. Now everything should be working smoothly again &#8212; drop me a line if something isn&#8217;t.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Frets On Fire World Charts were down for some time due to a configuration error. Now everything should be working smoothly again &#8212; drop me a line if something isn&#8217;t.</p>
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